Friday, September 23, 2011

No title needed. Yawn.

Anyone not buying this gift from heaven does not deserve this Epic battle.

I received an email today, and although its the best news Ive heard all day, I cannot repeat it here just yet.

10 monster boxes purchased today.

Getting physical, physical, baby.

Some screaming liquidation, I agree, but with liquidation comes the green light go ahead for the manipulation ESPECIALLY on a comex expiry. You would do the same thing. Congratulate Blythe on a well played CME after hours margin hike too, she is playing all positions now.

If you are wondering why I'm so chipper, I have now allocated another 20% of my cash profits into physical...as I am starting to distance myself from the paper game.

Sprott Money ran out of physical silver to sell today by the way.

Anyone use my discount code to buy today? lol SGB was not impressed I am giving this away, but they should like the free advertising.

Be back in a bit with a full breakdown of the situation today and the 27% discount.

88 comments:

  1. 10 monster boxes purchased today. Fucking impressive!

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  2. YEah SGS 10 monster boxes you dont fuck around! Wish I had that kind of fiat. I went with some tarded cougars! HA HA.. they got to be better in person!

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  3. "I received an email today, and although its the best news Ive heard all day, I cannot repeat it here just yet."

    Bust-out a quit being a fucking tease if you're going to bring it up! You've got your pallet of Monster Boxes so give the minnows a little love! ;)

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  4. I used your promo code.. didn't get much of a discount.. 514 subtotal discount 1.28 :(

    oh well better than nothing, right.
    Other than that their prices are pretty cheap and shipping to So Cal was 26 bucks..

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  5. I bought today and hope the dip deepens. I did an early withdraw from my IRA in the expectation that the system is not going to survive the 15 years till I reach "retirement" age.

    Anybody want to play the stock game with me and Boris at Single Dude Travel? We can get a chance to see how good everyone really is at predicting the current and upcoming craziness.

    http://www.singledudetravel.com/2011/09/fantasy-stock-portfolio-contest/

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  6. @Charlie SDT

    I cashed out my IRA' earlier this year too, I'm not waiting around for the gov't to turn them into worthless treasuries to back stop their spending. Besides we already contribute to a ponzi scheme called social security. I want the physical not the fiat.

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  7. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENGELHARD-1OZ-999-PURE-FINE-SILVER-BAR-/250894103548?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6a7433fc .. 30 min left and it @ 55 bux...that showed you what the different betweeen paper market and real market ..

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  8. in a room full a retards (myself included) one retard comes out on top... one man who went against the grain and called out all the bs from the silver pusher out there! He a mortal amongst us reatards and that retard is the ever so controversial Weather Unit! Ladies and Gentlemen please give a warm applause of the biggest retard of them all! WEATHER UNIT!!!

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  9. Aiisard,

    Buy an Engelhard for $55 on ebay or buy an Engelhard for $35 from APMEX:

    http://www.apmex.com/Product/9711/1_oz_Engelhard_Silver_Bar_999_Fine.aspx

    Who would buy from ebay?

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  10. Sorry, that's $61 from ebay. WHY would someone do that? WHY?!

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  11. Today's events bring to mind 2 signs which were ubiquitous on the walls of the cubicles in business:

    answers $1
    correct answers $2
    dumb looks are still free

    and

    "Are we having fun yest?!"

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  12. reefman, because they are fucking stupid, that's why. Sheep who have been programmed that ebay is cool even though you never get a deal on anything.

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  13. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4--ykcTSNE

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  14. Actually, someone's getting screwed on the eBay deal. You bid up an item, like a bar on Tuesday, and the bottom falls out by the time the auction closes, leaving the buyer disgruntled and the seller chuckling. Free money, 'cause they can go restock $10 cheaper. If you look, all the smart metals sellers on ebay have auctions closing several hours after Sunday's market open. That way, buyers bid over the weekend on the Friday closing price. If it opens higher, buyers bid it up further. If lower, the weekend buyers get hosed, stuck with the bad deal. It's a great system! If you're a seller... lol.

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  15. $20 electric fuel pump for my '99 silverado on ebay......but thats the first deal i've seen......phys...fogetabotit

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  16. Even the ebay buyers are smarter than the non buyers, Period ! Still funny as hell..

    I looked on several Bullion dealers sites, and Silver Eagles are now back on back order.. So as the Trolls were on here telling us all to "SELL" Sprot gets Picked CLEAN !

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  17. Don, nice trick on ebay. I may use that if I ever decide to sell anything.

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  18. Hey SGS, please let us little people out in Sheopleville know when your boys at the CFTC will ride to the rescue. We are getting antsy.

    Or maybe it's you who is the SUCKER?

    lolololol

    Sincerely,

    The Sheople

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  19. Hmmmm... at its lowest point today, silver was down $6.66 - It truly is the devils metal.

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  20. CTV News (Toronto) 6PM wrap up:

    1) A Pressitute (don't know is name and don't care): Said the gold bubble has finally popped.

    2) A Black woman is interviewed while looking at a big scrolling TSX board, saying OMG my investments are going down the tubes. Kids education and retirement funds are rapidly shrinking, she looked sickly worried. She asked "what should I do?".

    3) Senior professor at the Rotman School of Business (U of T) prestigious Toronto business school): said if you are not sleeping or are worried sick about your investments - consider getting out. No longer are they saying stay put. This guy is obviously informed about the EU and the debt crisis in the US and knows it likely to get worse before it gets better (if ever). Yeah, he looked concerned and dead serious!

    Thanks to guys like SGS and others I got out in April and am F*ing glad I did.

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  21. Pete: LOL. If shit gets out of control, I can always count on you to be first in line to be the CFTC hitman. LOL.

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  22. to all the Vancouver, BC metal bugs :
    just got back from the vbce downtown location, bought some phyzz. they are running very low on silver inventory. the person assisting me was not even sure if could have what i was asking for. he had to "go ask".
    so right after that i went to the granville/broadway branch. get this: they have completely sold out of silver. all they had left was 66! 1oz rounds. no bars of any sizes and no leafs.
    just a heads-up.
    btw, i've posted this in other blog, so don't be alarmed.

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  23. What do you think?

    Anyone remember playing Red-Light, Green-Light in school? We're talking first few years.

    before your 10yrs old Red-meens stop/bad. Green meens Go/Good/Yay.

    In investment world...Red= go/buy
    Green = slow/stop/profit

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  24. I literally came in my pants when I got FILLED for my Dec AGQ call

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  25. MethLab101,

    I went to VBCE this morning to look around at a few tubes of silver Maples and they were awash in them & 10oz bars. Amazing, I can't imagine there being a lot of phyzz left out there after today. Thanks for that news, it is telling.

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  26. Hey, SGS, you mentioned in a post a few months ago about a friend/colleague in the government who was talking about a major event coming down the pipes, and that the government was gobbling up resources ahead of time. Heard any more along these lines? What made me think of it was this:

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/is-the-u-s-government-stockpiling-food-in-anticipation-of-a-major-economic-crisis

    Not sure what to make of it. But it'd be cool to hear another perspective.

    Also, days like today make me glad to be all physical at this point. May 1 taught me a lesson: I'm not an insider and I don't know when these bullshit moves are gonna blindside me. What a day...

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  27. the discount code is for a .25% discount. Not much, but hey, fuck it.

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  28. People, you still have 48 hours to decide to buy the physical at this price.

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  29. Phaethon: Fight Club starts back up on Monday, will know more then.

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  30. no problem, DM, i try to be there at least 2 times per week. they say new inventory is coming on monday afternoon. hopefully Ag will be on the "extended sale" come monday.

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  31. @ Methlab

    I called vbce around 4:30 ish and the guy said they have nothing in stock, and same with granville.

    To all the people buying the cougars where are you getting them at?

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  32. Yay! My Tinka stink bid I put on over 2 months ago hit! Added more at 37 cents.

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  33. Methlab:

    Here is my facebook status:

    "JP Morgan just put up a "Buy 4 get one free" deal on silver this weekend. Or you could buy one for 25% off. Don't waste time eating and drinking and sleeping. Go out and buy some silver while JP Morgan still has this offer:

    From the blogsphere:

    "MethLab101 said...
    to all the Vancouver, BC metal bugs :
    just got back from the vbce downtown location, bought some phyzz. they are running very low on silver inventory. the person assisting me was not even sure if could have what i was asking for. he had to "go ask".
    so right after that i went to the granville/broadway branch. get this: they have completely sold out of silver. all they had left was 66! 1oz rounds. no bars of any sizes and no leafs.
    just a heads-up.
    btw, i've posted this in other blog, so don't be alarmed.
    September 23, 2011 7:58 PM
    ""

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  34. SGS,

    "I received an email today, and although its the best news Ive heard all day, I cannot repeat it here just yet."

    Given the events of the day, pretty sucky news can still qualify as "best." ;-)

    Soooo, when is this unmentionable whatever supposed to effect (I'm assuming upwards) silver prices?

    And, when will "just yet" be? Thanks.

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  35. I took advantage of the sale today. Tulving's lines were jammed, and they told me all calls were buyers. This was an epic day. I don't think the phyz supply will last very long down here at these prices. Physical silver is making it's way into stronger and stronger hands. The people buying today will not be selling it for fiat. It is capital leaving the economy, waiting for real opportunity and real value.

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  36. @Reefman, i like 25% off ANYTHING, esp silver.
    my brain has been on over-drive all day long. fucking blythe, her stupid bullshit, and margin hikes. on top of that, sheeple at the bullion are buying euros ? i wanted to ask them for their reasoning, and why they chose to switch their brown pieces of paper for yellow and red ones, but i said "fuck it". got more phyzz to add to my castle, smiled, and now gonna take a god damn nap.

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  37. @MUFC, i asked vbce about the cougars but nobody has a damn clue as to when they'll have them. best bet would probably be online, if you really need them. personally, i don't give a shit anymore, as long as it has at least three nines on it..

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  38. @Methlab101 I picked up some courgars from provident metals online, APMEX has them as well for a little more.

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  39. the dealers all bought silver at spot weeks ago, and they don't want to sell at a depressed price because they lose money hand over fist. When silver keeps coming in from the mines and the govt mints and all that withheld inventory will be sold by assMEX and Fartsdale and Painsville and price discovery will take place and the current fake bottleneck will dissappear.

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  40. the asshole pawn dealers just dont want to take a loss on last months purchases quite yet so they are like: "we are all out" obviously any of you would do the same thing in their place and hope against hope spot comes back to 35 on monday

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  41. disclosure: I have 200 ounces sitting right next to me as I write. Not selling, but definately trading the hell out of this 2008 commodity rout redux

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  42. who was the guy leveraging himself to corn and bragging about it constantly the past month on this blog in the midst of a deflationary banking crisis?? I was shaking my head every time he posted, like what planet is he from??? corn is only down 10%, but when oil breaks 70 that trade will fall apart

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  43. Sorry for the repost, just want the interested parties to surely get a look...

    ---

    To those that are interested in where I find Korea spot prices:

    http://www.goldbar.co.kr

    On the right hand sidebar, the first entry is .999 gold. And the last one is .999 silver. And they are going by 3.75g nuggets.

    If you use the Kitco app, you will be presented the Comex spot in the specified currency.

    This is not the case in Korea. Korea is NOT following Comex spot since August 2011.

    I am very curious to see how spots are going elsewhere in the world, especially Asia.

    I am currently plotting an arbitration extravaganza. It may be worth it.....

    RIDICULOUS LINE at California Numismatic, here in Los Angeles. Line was all around the building. How many sellers = negative 0.

    So FUCK YOU, David Casper!!!

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  44. holy shit, commodity world, you are spazzing out with your comments again! it's like this comment board is a fuckin' chatroom with you!

    also, you got a huge ego after you said you "called" this crash. yeah, homie, what about you pumping the fuck out of traveler's insurance during the hurricane?

    hmmm...

    you seem like a good guy, with a weather unit-ish name, but you're not all cotton candy and popcorn.

    fuck your calls. fuck your ego. and fuck your guru too.

    like colin says, no one knows nothing.

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  45. Strength through Unity
    Unity through Faith

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  46. Phaethon,

    No offense but that link you posted is just plain stupid. They got an order from a "government source" for 5-figures worth of food rations. So this could be a military order? Well I guarantee you the military spends 7 and most likely, 8 figures every year on food rations. Further, 5-figures so $10-99K? So at most that'll feed 300 families for a month? Really this is "news" worthy? Talk about making something out of nothing.

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  47. CWN: "the dealers all bought silver at spot weeks ago, and they don't want to sell at a depressed price because they lose money hand over fist. When silver keeps coming in from the mines and the govt mints and all that withheld inventory will be sold by assMEX and Fartsdale and Painsville and price discovery will take place and the current fake bottleneck will dissappear."

    Wrong.

    Confirmed from two extremely large dealers they had there busiest day EVER on record in both volume AND sales.

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  48. Commodity World News In "Most of the Bullion dealers, you can still purchase this silver, but it is on Back Order ! So what bottle neck are we talking about?

    I'm treated like "Norm" from the old series "Cheers" in my local coin shop.. I went up there this afternoon and talked to them.. They had six Silver Eagles left, and no one coming in to sell them ! They had Zero when I left ! They haven't seen anything like this since the Hunt Brothers ! We talk very openly with each other, and know all my views. I've told them, I wouldn't sell in this madness.. But they do. They take the good with the bad, and they are not even hedged like the big boys.

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  49. Kitchener, Ontario coin shop runs out of silver:
    http://www.colonialacres.com/cgi-bin/dispitem.cgi?item=2011_SML

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  50. I just don't believe it, all I see on the internet is hype. In my area, central connecticut, there is no interest in buying silver at any shop I've been to. We don't have real organizd dealers here, and we are not a big city so i am not seeing the demand side that you guys are in hip cultural areas like vancouver and new york and LA. I figure maybe 20% of the population lives in an area that is hip to the times and the rest of the country is like hartford, behind the times. and I'm a contrarian so I'm considering the other side of the trade has more credence for the next few weeks, considering whhat I am seeing online and in real life don't jive.

    I was talking travelers down during the hurricane, it went down and its back down where it was during the hurricane now again.

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  51. if there is a silver shortage there is a man on the silas deane highway 5 miles from my house with 100,000 ounces sitting on the floor in disarray when you walk in his store. He has so much freaking silver from all the old money people selling here, its astounding, I should take a picture of the silver stacked two feet high in every nook and cranny next behind the counter, and then his walk in safe full of gold and silver. also good ole tom's managers told me that he has hundreds of thousands of ounces of silver in storage inventory for the store in east hartford, and tens of thousand ounces of gold

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  52. "No offense but that link you posted is just plain stupid."

    Right, that site isn't the best by any stretch. I think that if I start hearing the same thing from a bunch of different sources, it gets my attention. That's why I wanted to ask here too, where SGS has mentioned something similar before.

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  53. Hey SGS - I used that discount code today.
    Bought 10 rolls of buffalos. Thanks for the hookup. I hadn't heard of these guys before, and they're just a province over. Set up an account with them too so they really can thank you for the advertising. Damn - cause i bought a shipment from First Majestic this week too they shipped right before I could cancel - so I guess I'm averaging in.
    Cheers

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  54. travelers puts were the cheapest puts in a ten billion dollar financial you could find, I spent two nights researching options charts to find one with the lowest volatility built into the option price and then I looked at travelers balance sheet and realized municipals are vulnerable with federal tax problems coming. then obama announced on monday that he would increase capital gains taxes on the wealthiest individuals, which means that municipal bond rates have to increase to offset the loss for tax increase in order to attract investment. this would be a tax on municipal bonds instead of the wealthy, and the common town taxpayer would pay. travelers went down on the news.

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  55. Nigel Farage does not pull any punches - the EU is doomed. Please scroll down to the audio bar and listen to the King World News interview. I'm going to buy a couple gold Maples this weekend on credit F** it!

    http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/nigel-farage-financial-cataclysm-gold-to-unimaginable-levels_09232011

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  56. I love this blog for the insights from posters like highrise and the inspiration to work towards building a physical store. I was bringing deflation idea that I didn't see outlined in other the posts. I get your point with the ego: I've lost so many times on trades that were halfway through due to government intervention that I'm excited, thanks for the heads up.

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  57. Seems to me the argument between CWN and us phyzz buyers is immaterial. There is physical demand and there is the paper trade. What I want to know is will the paper price be driven down before I buy more phyzz. I have a limited supply of 'powder', and need to buy at the absolute low. Going back to 2008, the drop in metals started slowly and took place over several weeks. It was 4 months before the absolute bottom was hit. I bought phyzz over spot at 38.72. I'm not selling my investment. But if it's going down to 20, hell, why not buy twice as much there? Looking at the COT reports, I need to see the commercials commencing a desperate excercise to reverse their short/long position. They seem to have started the last couple of weeks. I'm waiting to see the numbers next week to buy in for sure. If they cleared like 50,000 shorts on this dip and added on longs, I'd be like "Hell yeah! The end is nigh and they're covering their butts"

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  58. A general question to level headed folks out there...what are your thoughts on 10oz bars? (APMEX, AMARK, Wall Street Mint, Engelhard)?? I always read about folks buying the coins, are bars a worse bet? Will they be harder to unload should the time come? Just looking for your $.02 on it.

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  59. geodude, as long as it got .999 on it, its a safe bet.

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  60. Commodity World News If I was you, I'd Flee that damn state. Because your living with the most Brain dead people on Planet Earth ! We grow them a little smarter in the mid west.. When the Shit hits the fan here, we won't be eating each other.. Tell your friend to get with Heartland Coin in Wichita Kansas, and we will Buy All He Wants To Sell ! Problem Solved ! Of course the state you live in will be Very poor, but they deserve it !

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  61. There once was a trader named SGS.
    He was followed by sheep into a mess.
    They bought silver ounce after ounce
    waiting and waiting for that big silver bounce.
    But along came Ms. Masters with paper in hand,
    showing who's boss in this silver land.
    Prices dropped like a rock...faster and faster.
    All they could do is point the finger at Ms. Masters.

    P.S. Take a whiff of my monster box.

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  62. Dynamic Coin & Jewelry
    802 Silas Deane Hwy, Wethersfield, CT 06109 and
    http://www.goodoletom.com/
    tom's managers told me they send their silver away and only recently have they seen enough demand to hold onto some silver bullion when they buy it

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  63. "He was followed by sheep into a mess"

    $15/oz to $50/oz is no mess.

    Good to have you on board, keep it coming.

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  64. @CWN:

    " In my area, central connecticut, there is no interest in buying silver at any shop I've been to."

    Living in a communist paradise of Connecticut - of course they are not interested in silver where you live. I live in the "green belt" of farmland and you bet they are buying this stuff up.

    Take a trip out to the country once in a while, and see what the locals think. Go to a country bar and mingle with the people you see there. It is a totally different universe than where you are from.

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  65. CWN, I have bought silver from the guy on the Silas Deane many times before I moved to NH last summer. The guy with the Irish Brogue, right? I can't confirm the 100k ounces of silver or the safe filled with silver and gold, but his store is a mess with stacks of coins everywhere. I stopped in their a few months ago when I was visiting family, and all he had for bullion was (10) 10 oz bars.

    That asshole on the Berlin Tnpke and his bitchy little asshole wife will never get my business again. She is a wench.

    My coin dealer in Manchester, NH has had trouble keeping silver in his inventory, and my guy in Concord, NH has very little every time I go in.

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  66. CWN: These are small timers not dealers.

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  67. CWN...you believe cousin wooie has tens of thousands of oz of gold(1000 oz is 1.7 million bux), but you doubt the posts from people claiming they are experiencing little to no silver left in coin shops?

    yes, its always happy hour somewhere..did you start early?

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  68. BM: IF you had any creativity you would have ended it with:

    "Prices dropped like a rock...faster and faster.
    All they could do is hold their cock.

    Say hi to James for me.

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  69. SGS, can you get the IP address of BlytheMasters? You can trace the address from here:

    http://cqcounter.com/whois/

    10:1 She is a silver trader at BAC - just like what SGTBull discovered.

    Check it out:
    VIDEO: ALERT: Which Criminal Bank Hates SGTreport? Find out Now:

    ARTICLE: SGTreport.com: Someone at Bank of America Doesn't Like SGTreport

    When you get your new site, make sure you track IP addresses.

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  70. people are so fucking helpless here, they have no connection to the soil like you guys. I work on yards and houses and take advantage of the mechanical cluelessness along with my friends. The smart people here go to college and straight into the insurance office and never learn how to take care of the houseby age 60. there are blue collar people but like michigan, blue collar industry anymore in newbritain or bristol or bridgeport, so there is a class descrepancy there. the only big silver buyers I find are hamilton sundstrand and pratt and whitney engineers.

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  71. @SGS

    I will hold the price down until next week.
    After that I am locked & loaded with the ammunition to move the price at will for years.
    Enjoy the rolercoaster ride.

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  72. With the margin hikes at EOD, will this likely cause Monday to be another sell off day?

    I'll have to go to the dealer's before they even open to guarantee entry. FUCK!

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  73. good ole tom is a small looking pawn shop but he had a lock on hartford for decades and now he's expanded and spun off to 7 stores all over the state. We don't have a real dealer here north of fairfield county.

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  74. @ TOM H. I hate that guy on the berlin turnpike too! The irish guy on silas deane is who I was talking about, stacks of coins everywhere, like disconcerting amounts of metal laying around.

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  75. CWN, the guy is tolerable if you can get his wife to shut her fucking mouth for 15 seconds. That Irish guy is a good dude.

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  76. Supply and demand says Sprott charges 24% per oz silver, and Silver Gold Bull 17% premium on silver and 10% for gold. Holy shit - I was expecting a huge discount for a Kook. But that's what you get when demand goes through the roof and supplies dry up! Supply and demand as a vendor or loose your shirt!

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  77. CWN,, Most of the people on this site, will buy silver until it's gone.. We Love sales, but we know the Value of Silver and Gold.. You really don't have to warn us.. After awhile you begin to sound like a Troll ! We understand what is "Real Money", it carries it's own Value.. It doesn't need a Government with Big Guns to tell you it's money.. It stands alone, World Wide ! We don't care if we pay to much fiat for it! If BlytheMasters wants to throw it on sale, we just pick up more with less Fiat, and put her in Prison Quicker !

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  78. SGS, I Believe Blythe Masters best color is Orange! So her future Wardrobe will look Great on Her and her Friends!

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  79. bflowers, do you think they have any boots in prison that will fit her ginormous fucking clown's feet?

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  80. It might take my Size 14EEEE Combat Boots, Special made, but I will donate them !

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  81. By the way CWN, CT sucks. It is full of liberal fucking retards who still believe democrats are fighting tooth and nail for a better, cleaner, gayer world. I grew up in CT and spent 40 years in that politically corrupt rats nest. Get the fuck out of there before they close it.

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  82. You will donate them? Jesus bflowers, you must have some big fucking feet.

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  83. @bflowers Its good there are lots of buyers, so there will more deliveries taken by dealers. Then I dont have to wait forever for my silver to be worth enough to buy property
    @tomh people are extreme liberal followers, too bad for young people who have lived here their whole lives, many are brainwashed and insecure. The fiscally conservative independent minded people in CT keep their mouth so they don't receive class warfare and taxes raised on their asses, again and again. for me its ok because taxes and cost of living is so high here that landscapers have a high rate, and inexplicably landscaping is entirely unregulated in CT

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  85. @Commodity World News: I grew up in CT (Old Saybrook) and went to high school in Middletown. That state is ran by fascists. GTFO. Now. My parents live on the water (dad bought his lot in 1972 when it was farm land and is now surrounded by million dollar houses) When that "hurricane" Irene hit, of the 70 or so houses along south cove were without power, only he and 1 other house had generators cranking. It was pretty nasty gloom & doom shit there for a bit because folks were getting desperate. Go figure...they all had enough money to purchase million dollar houses but not one ounce of intellect to spend a couple thousand on a generator should the shit hit the fan. Just like SGS says, when I drive through that town, I look around and ask myself "Is he prepared?" & "Oh, that fucker is in for it soon." CT is filled with sheeple just like that...its exactly why my dad purchased a farm.
    I digress.

    @MethLab101, I appreciate the vote of confidence. With all this talk of maples, eagles, and philharmonics, I feel like the bar folks (I'm a fan of bars...both types) get left out of the brewhaha.

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  86. There is nothing wrong with being a liberal, the foundering fathers were indeed "liberal" and progressive. TJ was the biggest liberal of his day, yet he was right! I have been to CT. and as a West Coast liberal, indeed thay have way to much governance and intrusion and it is a sorta nanny state. But remember, this is what that state populace has elected and who runs CT, the bankers and hedge funds!

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  87. Sorry, guys got me thinking:

    I as fiscally responsible, historically wise person, it bothers me beyond end on how we throw around the outdated and irresponsible terms of Liberal and Conservative, they just dont fit!

    Why is Liberal such a demonized term? I hate that people deem being a liberal as wanting to spend money you dont have, or other ppls money, it simply not true! Its simple means that you are open to ideas that have merit and are best overall.

    Or that conservatives are not conservative and are unwilling to conserve, not true.

    There is a gray area the is inhabited by most people, on one side of the paradigm is those that prefer security and those that prefer unrestrained freedom. These plays out when I'm in line at the fucking airport, I'll ask the old lady in front of me, do you think this makes us safer, shes like yes, the I ask the young girl behind me, she like what ever I just want to get my plane. Then I'll talk to the old guy on the plane, he says what can we do, the middle aged guy says I know it bullshit but I voted for Barry.

    Here in WA state, we have strip clubs, but you cant drink in them, WTF! The State sells the liquor, Why? Seat belt laws, cell phones laws, this law, that law, yada, yada, yada. Look I dont mind paying taxes, and I truly believe that there needs to be a safety net, but does any of that make me "liberal" or "conservative"?

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  88. Did anyone get dragon coins yet. I am still waiting?

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