Tuesday, May 3, 2011

Part 6 Silver Manipulation - The Paper War has gone Full Retard

You know how to thank me!

101 comments:

  1. Protect your paper with puts, buy the physical, let deplete these motherfuckers.

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  2. The video has some merits. I see the premium on Austrian philharmonics and Maples jumped on GC. It is more than 1 buck jumped.

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  3. Best vid so far. I get it now, just kidding I don't. Ok, I do.

    Fiat price heading to $40 ATM. Couple bounces and we're there. US$ now the safe haven for all the wold. Pop goes the bubble.

    /sarc

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  4. ok so your change of mindset? is to sell SLV.. buy puts against it while buying physical.

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  5. Glad Im wearing shorts, its below $42 now..!

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  7. Agreed. The spot price and physical have been diverging for several weeks now. This big take down in spot is making it all that much clearer.

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  8. SGS....excellent video. Silver and Gold came back from the depths of hell and were heading higher today. Gold was up +$4.00 and silver was up +$.35. Then all of a reversal and now we are down -$2.19. Must have been another one of this MARGIN HIKES to keep volatility down....Hahahahaaaa

    How STOOOPID can they think we are. Jeesssh...they just made the volatility worse. This reminds me of the tactic the coast guard utilzed when another oil slick was discovered in the Gulf of Mexico.

    The Coast Guard said is was a form of ALGAE. This new form of ALGAE looked like oil, smelled like oil and stuck to the bow of ones boat like oil. YUP....must be ALGAE.

    Fricken Hilarious.

    AGAIN....SGS...GREAT DAMN JOB. GLAD to have you on side of the GOOD GUYS

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  9. shit, so does this mean even trades like AGQ and SIVR will drop to zero?

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  10. the frooo-aide heheheheheh

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  11. Very interesting video. Will prices diverge? If so, it's the end....

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  12. those of you claiming inside knowledge, or the ability to make accurate short-term predictions (SGS and myself included) are idiots, pure and simple. silver shoots up a few bucks a couple of weeks ago, and you celebrate and take credit. then the paper price gets slammed (contrary to your prediction at end of last week) and you act like you saw it coming and tell everyone to buy the dips. and now you tell people to buy puts (after losing $6 off spot and igniting a downtrend).

    while the dollar is destined to get wiped out (eventually) we are still a long way from insolvency, and until then, they will win every fucking time. just look at how they fabricated the bin Laden killing... in actuality he's been dead since December 2001. the "SHTF" won't occur until the boomers slowly bleed the system. China and other creditors are mostly irrelevant at this point; if they stop buying our paper, we stop buying their worthless shit, it's as simple as that. we will continue to default via the printing press in the meantime. we're still a pretty self-reliant country when it comes down to it.

    face it folks, the silver "explosion" or "default" is not going to happen. no one is more disappointed than myself.

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  13. "those of you claiming inside knowledge, or the ability to make accurate short-term predictions (SGS and myself included) are idiots, pure and simple"

    Where were you from $17-50 on my calls?

    LOL

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  14. SGS et al: Im tanked with fiat now, and want to go physical. Why should I supposedly stay away from American Silver Eagles(2010)? Are they counterfeit or what? Or is it just as owning Nazi-Gold during the 1950-ies ?

    Used American Eagles are going for $50-60\ounce here in Sweden :\

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  15. Nice video, as usual. I really appreciate the info and perspective! You are a funny MotherFucker!!

    Keep the good shit coming!

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  16. We the Sheeple....I understand ones frustration, but we must remember all PONZIS come to an end badly. Oh...ENRON comes to mind, one day $82 billion dollar market cap, the next day...BIG PHAT ZERO.

    We are in the exponential decline. As each day passes, smaller and smaller periods of time reveal more huge and massive moves to disintegration.

    The JIG IS UP, and even though a great deal of ANAL-ISTS are forecasting years and decades before collapse, MATH is not on their side.

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  17. Actual physical prices on ebay

    http://www.24hgold.com/english/buy_sell_silver_coins.aspx?co_id=0

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  18. wtf just happened with tinka? it jumped up almost 10 cents? did they strike more chimu or something?

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  19. ouch!! lets just get this shit over with.. go down to 30 and get all the speculators out... silver aint for the faint of heart that is fo sho

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  20. JESUS CRIPES

    JUST LOOK AT SHE DROP...

    -$3.07 @ $40.86...so much for worrying about the RESISTANCE LEVEL of $42.

    WOW....unbelievable

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  21. I just posted this at KITCO but you heard here it first! (just wanted to say that SGS..haha)

    Check out the volumes SOARING for futures July on COMEX!! Two hours ago it was around 40000 and now its over 135000!!

    This could be a default already! Wow,http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/metals/precious/silver_quotes_globex.html super bullish!

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  22. Did any fundamentals change in the last 2 days? I bought silver as a saveguard to collapse. This manipulation doesn't worry me at all. Actually, it's just an opportunity to buy more!

    Real Silver has value, it is not an endless supply, don't forget this and we'll all be fine.

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  23. @ SGS & SRSrocco - you're damn right I'm frustrated. the difference between Enron and the Morgue is that the former wasn't above the law. I'll bet my stack of phyzz that we don't see over $50 before 2012 after this latest raid.

    SGS - at least man up on some missed calls so you don't lose credibility with your disciples. It happens to the best of us. you are right most of the time it seems but who could've predicted the shit we've seen in teh last five days.

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  24. http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/metals/precious/silver_quotes_globex.html

    try link again and hit *auto refresh* for the fun. Even OI for this month and June is going up

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  25. Come on $39! Hell, bring me $37.50 you fucking bastards!!!!!

    Greatest day since the March pullback. Rejoice!

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  26. Really, really good stuff, SGS!

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  27. SGS...Let me see if I have this right? Perception is reality. The spot price of silver has been and will be a gargantuan lie!!! If silver shots past say $60/oz then that will expose the fraud for all the world to see and that will cause the JP Morgue et. al to shit bricks for the rest of their miserabe lives. So, they will push the physical market underground while letting the rest of the sheep to live in Alice in Wonderlandville above ground. What pure, Satin/Beelzabub evil. Shakespere says: "what tangled webs we weave when first we practice to decieve". God help us! :)

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  28. THANK GOD FOR THE FOLKS AT THE CME GROUP WHO RAISED MARGIN REQUIREMENTS TO KEEP DOWN VOLAITITY

    Silver..Jul 2011.....41.135.....-4.949

    Well...that turns out to be a measily 10.7%

    KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK YA BUNCH OF CLOWNS

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  29. its like football touts, even chapman said he hopes to be right 55%, he sounded 110 years old last night on radio ... he will be on RBN today, be interested to hear him ... chapman and maloney both bought a lot more silver last week ... so as william goldman said about hollywood, NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING ... touts don't pay when you lose but they want your money amidst the halcyon of bullet times.

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  30. Wow, more than 10% in one day. This is unreal. Prices will most likely collapse to mid-30s by tomorrow, then the buying will start. Time to average down.

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  31. Going to test 40 now, then 39, then 37.5 then finally stay the nite at 35. ;)

    Why should I stay away from American Silver Eagles? Are they tainted or what?
    I wanna buy physicaaaal, tell me!

    And I have a total of four small silver rockets ready to get launched ;)
    Hinterland
    Sotkamo (Potential Finnish super-rocket)
    Tinka
    and just bought Wildcat for the funsies.

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  32. Oh man! those are crazy numbers on the July 2011 contract. They solved NOTHING today.

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  33. Those little bears have big hearts...thanks SGS

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  34. What the guess for the bottom, $35 ?

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  35. the only trade that should be done is worth less FRN's into gold or silver BULLION..fuck all paper...

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  36. Inverted head & shoulders on SI right now on the 5 min chart. Daily chart showing we hit trend line support at the lows. Time for a bounce?

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  37. Why on earth are the volumes increasing tremendously just for july 2011? And why $46?
    It beats me..

    Still, what's supposedly wrong with buying American Silver Eagles in favour of other coins? :(
    You guys seem to prefer Canadian coins instead..?

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  38. We the Sheepdick, go jack yourself and your imaginary stack of silver. If you can't hang with the big boys, go play hopscotch with the little girls on the school playground. SGS is no mind reader and everyone who has bought in at $30 and below has made a killing of his awesome insight...FOAD

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  39. Fuck JPM, they just made there problem 100x worse.
    Liquidated all my HZU.to this morning, now its dropped 10% since then, well fuck them. That paper money which was being used as a hedge is now flowing into physical. Fuck em.

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  40. @SGS great video! Bravo, bravo!

    I got some more TK @ .48 today.

    Just a general message to everyone. If any of you use laxatives, you won't be needing them for much longer.

    Seeing some of you don't like connotations, I'll try and be more direct:

    Silver is not for those with faint hearts!

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  41. I am guessing the following.

    Spot price determined by the silver future will be manipulated. Even you have bought a silver contract and want physcial delivery, you will be told nothing or settle in cash. JPM and the gang will take their physical delivery of future contracts.

    Then comes the "black" market where people will be buying and selling their silver or gold at the commonly acceptable price.

    So in short, when available, buy the physical silver. That is the stuff they can't print.

    I figure more silver mining companies will be like First Majestic. They will start selling physical bullions and bars directly and skip the fake pricing scheme.

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  42. SRSrocco: We are in the exponential decline. As each day passes, smaller and smaller periods of time reveal more huge and massive moves to disintegration.

    The JIG IS UP, and even though a great deal of ANAL-ISTS are forecasting years and decades before collapse, MATH is not on their side.


    I've come to the same conclusion myself!!! The collapse is actually here, we are living it and it will gradually worsen. No growth, deep unemployment, insolvent states and governments cuts just beginning. The feedback loop of spending cuts will only lead to more cuts. Only after it's over and part of history will we look back and realize "what was".

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  43. Bring the gold!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qO66Rmi1Mw

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  44. I shall believe there really is a difference between paper and physical when the spot price and the physical price at BullionVault starts to widen.

    So far this hasn't happened.

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  45. Wowzers, check out the volume for contracts in July 2011 again. Now its almost at 150,000

    The gig is up and they thought that they could win by dragging silver to $40? LOL

    Check out July futures (even May and June are getting pump)

    I smell default around the corner

    http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/metals/precious/silver_quotes_globex.html

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  46. I'll bet the "bottom" is 39.95, a 20% retracement from high of 49.82. Classic.

    Those wishing and hoping for 37.50 or less...well...you'll be left at the altar I would think.

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  47. Great Panther's bullion store is closed. Apmex prices have hardly dropped. Bullion direct is honoring spot price, but Eagles and Maples are not in stock (delayed).

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  48. Once the POSX dives past 73, AG and AU will get a big boost from short covering.

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  49. Eagles for 2011 as of yesterday exactly at this time at APMEX:

    88645

    Eagles as of right now at Apmex? Its at 68163

    Remember, these eagles are already on delay till the the 13th. So you are looking at close to two weeks before you get them in your hands.

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  50. Why wouldn't someone with resources take advantage of the obvious arbitrage and buy 5000+ ounces on the COMEX at X dollars/ounce, take delivery, and then sell at X + Divergence Premium in the physical market? How would this be sustainable? Or is this the point at which the wheels totally fall off once price divergence gets to $X, whatever that may be?

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  51. This is election year. And Obama want re-election. The oil price is the getting in the way. The past few days, Gold, silver and oil prices kept hitting the headlines.

    With Osama killed, the stock market failed to goes up. Then all of a sudden, yen and US dollar just kept going up from last night.

    That not only knock silver and oil down, even gold goes down.

    But stock market still goes down. Whoever manipulating the market is not winning. The spring is being pressed hard. They can't hold for long and it will spring back with a vengeance.

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  52. Another great video. Classic dry-Brit humour with a hint of anatomical vulgarity

    politicalponzi.blogspot.com

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  53. Final spam from me. I envision pretty soon, people from foreign countries will come to US and buy physical silver and gold bullion and bars.

    JPM, Comex is keeping the paper silver artificially low with respect to inflation and currency exchange rate.

    It sounds like a bigger buying opportunities for foreigners. Smart one won't buy paper. They will take physicals.

    It is off to a race to see who can get the last silver bullion.

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  54. "Citi is still around?" hahaha!!!

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  55. SGS--do you think actually think spot could hit the 20s, from your video?

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  56. iam gonna purchase 11k oz. tom. thanx. blythe... well done

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  57. Some ideas for the traders/chartists...

    Smaller inverted head & shoulders from my 3:16 post has played out. Now there's a larger one forming the right shoulder. Right side of neckline being formed now. If the formation plays out we could get a pullback to around 41.35, move back up to 41.86, then breakout with a target to right around $43, maybe as high as 43.25.

    If that doesn't work then it's another bear flag in which case we could see the 50 dma tested overnight @ $38.60. Just my opine for shits n giggles.

    Another possibility ... there could be a bullish wedge forming on SI. Easily charted on a 120/240 minute time frame. Just a couple guesses on my part...

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  58. SGS, thanks for your point of view and OPINION. for the people talking shit, this is information, use it or ignore it, do your own thinking and don't blame others or SGS for your choices.

    Physical is yours, it has value and the Gov can't get it, track it or control that you have it. It is a good deal, if you try and beat the odds buy all at once, then you may get burned and lose some cash, but you still own silver/value.

    I think buying the dips is good, also buying with dollar cost averaging. Meaning buy a little each month, every month, that way you buy some low, some high and over time you minimize you losses and average the cost out. You still own, gather and acquire real silver. You may not buy all at once and all at lowest price, but the bigger the risk the bigger the payoff or loss. I am buying the dips each month 50 or so each month. No matter what happens, I will increase my possession of real silver/value.

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  60. ScotiaMocatta's site is showing 100oz silver bar, in stock and priced at CAD Estimate $4320.32 Don't know how often they update during the day. That translates to $USD 45.29 per ounce at CADUSD 1.0484.
    A premium of about $3.50 - way higher than when I bought mine in the 20's.

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  61. What happened to the volume on the CME page? I saw it a few minutes ago and then checked it a few minutes later and the volume everywhere has been zeroed out. Am I missing something or did they shut this down???

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  62. So then why is the premium on pelvis I.e. physical and not paper going down. Surely pelvis is not identical to doc?

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  63. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3gQa6v1WiY&feature=uploademail

    Schiff says its time to buy!

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  64. Good stuff SGS.

    In the coming Mad Max world, you will be chronicled.

    By the way, how can I trade miners with some leverage but so much as with SI or GC futures?

    Cheers.

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  65. Multiple whammy here. Spot is dropping but I still can't find anyone to believe it enough to sell me their silver at a cheaper price. Shouldn't the market be flooding with cheap silver if people are panicking? I got money. Anyone want to sell? Sure, my balls are cinching up into my stomach a little, but if i can't find one I'm going to strap one on and BUY physical.

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  66. Cause Im free, free fallin!
    Ready to test $38 ?

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  67. Chuckles, I hate to correct you but $43.20 CAD oz works out to $41.20 US oz given the stated exchange rate. The CAD dollar is worth more than the USD. Cheers

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  69. chapman lotsa info on spot prices and market tricks ....


    http://republicbroadcasting.org/

    have to go to Stadtmiller show today, 2 hours show... they let you listen for free fr 24 using a few clicks

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  70. Prudential Insiders say "buy physical". But you didn't hear that from me.....developing....

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  71. kinda funny, listened to chapman for years, he's pretty much called for USD devaluation by end of this year etc etc, and by end 2012 all hell breaks loose and metals go to moon ... today, however, for first time he hedged bets some saying maybe 2-5 "i dunno" ... but he did say in summation that they are only kicking can down road and metals will win out...

    hunker down, I bought some more at 41 today

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  72. If Schiff says it's time to get back in who am I to argue after blowing chunks this few days.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3gQa6v1WiY&feature=uploademail

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  73. FUCK I GOT KILLED IN XAG/UAG FOREX OMFG

    will gold follow suit????

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  74. I'm voting for the Bears becoming a weekly series. Better educational/entertainment value then 80% of the rest of the crap on TV.

    Good work SGS.

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  75. Nice video. Thanks for your insight, again.

    I'm laughing at this drama, because I bought physical last at less than 40/oz. At that time people were saying they expected it to dip, and they were waiting. I didn't wait. I just bought it. It hasn't gone lower yet. Doesn't really matter, though. I'm not selling anyway.

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  76. This video basically states that Sprott's PSLV is paper, so I assume he does not have anything close to the physical silver that is stated in the trust then?

    Is PSLV pure paper?

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  77. PSLV is actually backed by accountable stores of AG...

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  78. So I assume if there become 2 prices for paper and physical silver, then SLV will follow the paper price and PSLV/SVRZF will follow the physical price?

    Will this mean the way PSLV matches real price will be through an absurd premium?

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  80. Just picked up some more physical for a freakin' steal!

    Oh yeah, and it was very easy to do using my J.P. Morgan Chase credit card! Suckers!

    Thank you, Blythe! Whoo-hoo!

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  81. Hmmm. I wonder where the hell AGQ will land, in terms of price, if the paper and the physical diverge?

    I would assume sooner or later, they would have to reflect the supply-demand metric in the price and the snap back would be vicious...

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  82. sgs,

    i have a dealer in chi who charges a little over spot. he pretty much told me he can get physical whenever and a little over spot. I buy 100 oz bars from him and it really isn't an issue. what can i expect in the near future? will he be charging over spot?

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  83. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8472810/Wikileaks-Al-Qaeda-plotted-chemical-and-nuclear-attack-on-the-West.html

    "One of the terrorist group’s most senior figures warned that al-Qaeda had obtained and hidden a nuclear bomb in Europe that would be detonated if Osama bin Laden was killed or captured."

    Posted April 26th, 2011.

    Expect imminent nuke in Europe to start collapse.
    June 22, 2011.

    You've been warned.

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  84. I use http://www.gainesvillecoins.com/

    Very reasonably priced and they have a good website.

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  85. "what can i expect in the near future? will he be charging over spot? "

    The time may come soon (maybe this week) where the flood gates will open, and a major dealer will blow themselves up and be wiped out of supply. It may be timed perfectly when SLV margin is increased. God Bless America.

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  86. When it a Blows up in our faces in the end.. It won't matter, What you paid for the Physical Metals at this point, won't matter a damn bit ! So you could of bought a few more ! Hind site is Twenty Fucking Twenty ! The game Changes .. They change the rules in the middle, and don't tell anyone.. Go with the Flow and don't get stuck in the Past ! This world doesn't understand the difference between REAL MONEY and fiat ! I live in America.. The population is like 350 million people.. They say at this point, there is a billion ounces around for speculators.. That's it.. You couldn't give all Americans Three Fricken OUNCES ! So how RARE is SILVER ! And of course the Rest of the world is buying as well.. What a Fuckin Bubble !

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  87. I think that you have done the world a Great Services SGS.. But( always love the Buts) I saw that you were on Harvey Organs site tonight.. And a lot of Christians get offended using Gods name in Vain.. And I want to see as much Silver and Gold hang around this part of the globe.. In the future just having a dimes worth of silver could get someone killed, because the Sheeple don't understand real Wealth from fiat.. Public School Sucks ! I know your trying to get the message across and I'm sure you feel the same way I do.. Besides, I have a nine year old I'm trying to explain things to, and I can't let him here your cartoon..lol I know your a Great Guy.. If you weren't ,, you wouldn't be doing this ! I Swear as well ,, btw..

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  88. here is my concern. we all know that what the FED and the US gov is doing is fucked up and wrong. we all know this. however, given the USA power and track record, who is going to stop them? it seems plausible that the USA has so much military power that they will force other countries to take the dollar no matter what and at all cost. they will use their force and invade small third world countries for OIL (Iraq) and expand their empire to the 3rd degree. Who is going to stop them? China? I would imagine that with their country growing all we have to do is cut them on the deal! I feel we are at a point in history because of the technology the military industrial complex will not be stopped in any of our lifes. Unless another country can match the USA military power the empire will continue to march on. They will manipulate the silver market (paper) and our only salvation will be the black market... Who is going to stop the USA?

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  89. 2pac4ya,

    The USA is going to stop the USA by seriously destroying the value of their currency. Why do you think we've had a two year run in commodities.

    Our deficit is too large, and we MUST print. Unless Congress gets the political balls to cut Medicare and SS entirely, the US dollar is continuing it's one-way downward direction.

    Eventually, the currency will fail. We've never been below 70 for the US$ and right now we're at $73. "Killing" Osama didn't do a think for the value of the US$.

    In regard to manipulation, again, they need more fiat to do it. And eventually they'll have to cover their shorts.

    The end must come eventually via currency collapse or short covering.

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  90. Who stopped Rome or the USSR?

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  91. JPDG... I agree with you from an economic perspective. However, who is going to stop them from just using brute force to get what they want? We all know they will blow over their own mothers to get what they want.

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  92. 2pac4ya

    I've read the Bible a few times ( I'm not a Christian), but believes what it says.. The US will go up in Smoke ! Russia will take it out while a civil war is Raging in America.. PM's are very Rare.. The world has forgotten that Money carries it's own Value ! It doesn't rely on a Government ! In the end times though it's so rare, people get rid of it and throw it into the streets to try to save their lives..lol Fiat will be destroyed, but to have "Real Money" could cost you your life ! Welcome to the Planet ..lol

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  93. 2pac4ya,

    ALL fiat currencies, in EVERY country, throughout ALL time have eventually collapsed. Done. Finished. What makes the US any different?

    They are either destroying the dollar intentionally or unintentionally, but either way it doesn't matter.

    And if the US government attempted to seize silver all hell would break loose, believe me. This country was founded by revolutionaries and our spirit hasn't changed.

    Hell, I live in Texas and part of me hopes we succeed from the Union of it gets worse!

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  94. JPDG....Texas isn't doing so well now, so seceding probably won't help you much! LOL

    Just listened to David Skarica's take. Said silver could go to 33-35 and my lag until 2012, and gold may outperform. Gold itself could hit 1450 within the next few months.

    Along the same lines, Trader Dan is seeing the lack of money coming into all commodities from the big hedge funds, so that might keep us down...

    "When risk trades are in vogue, silver is rocketing higher alongside of the rest of the commodity complex. When traders are avoiding risk and jettisoning the risk trades in favor of bonds or cash, the entire commodity complex seems to be following the exact same path as silver, namely down.

    As mentioned in my earlier post, until the risk trades come back on, the silver market is going to languish. I am not sure what pill the hedge funds will have to swallow to bring them back to another frame of mind but the fact is we need the money flows that only the hedge funds can provide to take it back up again."

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  95. Wineguy: I don't mind being corrected, when I'm wrong. Please look again. $US is weaker than $CDN so it takes more $US to buy something priced in $CDN.

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  96. Chuckles, my sincere apology. I will blame my brain fart on the Merlot. Cheers

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  97. Great vid SGS. I only buy and stack physical, shun trading the stock market like the plague, and just kick back; a little bit of booze on the side, checking out sites like this while waiting for the shit to impact the first blade.

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