"The Decade of EPIC Begins"
OT. I watched the 2009 EndGame video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho and laughed at the Al Gore BS on CO2 Climate change. This scum bag won a Nobel prize on pure BS, 99% of the population bought this hook line and sinker. I won't mention that Obamam won a peace prize in advance of the Libya invasion, and the Afghan war. Check this video out made by (mostly) Canadian Scientists and professors who debunk the UN and Gore version of global warming. More sheeple awaiting the Al Gore milking machine, suck on these teets: http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=394
@BuckanearHas it not been proven that the increase in atmospheric CO2 and increased acidity of the oceans, read increased CO2, has been caused by mans use of fossil fuels?If not we might want to notify the polar ice caps, the related glaciers and most of the earths remaining mountain snow caps, that the increased CO2 in not to blame for their demise!
Yo Malcolm,If you watched the 3 videos you'd see that global warming is A) related to solar activity. B) the impact of heat/cosmic rad on water (vapour). Look at NASAs data showing increased temps on all planets, this is Not cause by me driving my car to the liquour store for spirits. I say Al Gore give up his medal and $1.4M dollars for hood winking the sheeple! Gore is yet another ponzi looking to make billions on global warming - the guy looks crooked!! Got new for ewe, we still have snow on the grown here in Halton Hills (April) and the forecast is calling for a cold spring. Look up the word Albedo/cloud increase, this is the key driver for global cooling!
Buckanear, please take your Koch-headed propaganda elsewhere.
BTW, the increased levels of CO2 have intitiated the Carbon Sink in the oceans. CO2 is absorbed by micro plankton which use the CO2 to generate their tiny CaCO2 (calcium carbonate) shells. This is visible from space as huge plumes of white splotches on the oceans. These little plankton die and their shells drop to the ocean floor trapping the calcium carbonate (carbon) shells on the floor in a new layer of sedimentary rock! The cycle continues as Gaia recycles life. Acid rain is normal and the planet is quiet capable of handling these small concentrations!
lol Buckanear is 100% correct. The only propaganda is the Al Gore BS you guys are parroting. The reputable scientist Piers Corbyn explains this well. I find it fascinating how people can use critical thinking to see through the financial and economic propaganda yet shut off their minds to other disciplines like science and vice versa. Wake up guys, Blythe is a major part of the carbon trading system that is being set up.
Here is an excellent 4 part lecture explaining in detail how CO2 is not the cause of the climatic changes we are seeing.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcII challenge you to refute any part of this man's presentation.
Excellent video SGS! Just made a pretty decent "click contribution" to help a brother out! ;) Keep up the good work!
Buckanear is correct, educate yourselves.
As a biologist I can state without any deviations from peer reviewed journals that:A) there is a increase in atomosphereic CO2 levels.B) there is a direct correlation between the use of fossil fuels and the increased CO2 levelsC) CO2 is a by-product of combustionD) CO2 acts as a thermal blanketNow, dispute this facts.I really don't care whom you cite, if they are not published, peer reviewed, or an authority on the subject of atmospheric science they mean nothing and it's all propaganda.
I agree with A, B, and C and did not state otherwise on that subject. D is wrong if you are stating that it is in any way significant in comparison to solar activity and water vapor, period. The argument is not whether CO2 levels are rising or if man is contributing to rising CO2 or whether the climate fluctuates. The argument is that any effect from CO2 PALES in comparison to the Sun and water vapor. If you dispute that then that is truly laughable.
read the first 20 hits and get an education"climategate"http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=climategagte#hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&ei=IQuZTaP_DuPiiAL59vTlCA&ved=0CCEQvwUoAQ&q=climategate&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=f8860bd30fc8be5c
Mars is getting pretty hot, we better stop breathing guys, lol.
The MIT Technology Review published an article from, if I recall, one of the main people who started "global warming". Funny thing, on the nice chart CO2 followed, not lead, the rise in ocean temperature in 3 out of 3 instances. Models did not even include oceans as heat sinks until about 2000. If people can't reliably predict the weather in sunny California tomorrow, how can they predict anything? Been following Piers Corbyn for a few months now and he appears quite accurate, months in advance.
Darth Smoker makes a good point too. You need to realize these scientists are like used car salesmen whoring themselves for a buck or research grant, just like Frederic 'Napoleon Dynamite' Mishkin does in the academic realm of economics.
As a Chemical Engineer - this is exactly my point and those of the Canadian Scientists, if you took the time to listen to the 3 videos, global green house gas 1 is water vapour, gas 2 is water vapour, gas 3 is water vapour, gas 4 is water vapour, and a distant 5 is CO2 - haaaalllloooo. Per ice cores the earth was warmer (than present) many times in the past than now. The actual data show we are beginning to slip into an ice age! LOL. You-All got to remember Al Gore and the CO2 cartel stand to make Trillions on global warming scam with wind turbines, solar panels, alt fuels etc. This is just another case of BS period! Check out that site, these scientists have nothing to gain on bucking the trend? Even David Suzuki is out to lunch, my favorite Canuck environmentalist will not acknowledge the truth b/c he's got too much aligned with CO2. I love the guy, but he's too political to see the truth! When you've pushed the story for 50 yrs and your 80 yrs old you aint gonna change yer mind without looking like a dolt!
@MalcomThose are some loose associations.One could also sayA) there is a increase in atomosphereic CO2 levels.B) there is a direct correlation between the size of the human population and the increased CO2 levelsC) CO2 is a by-product of human combustionD) CO2 acts as a thermal blanketNow I changed some of the facts, but yet are undisputed. And now it seems the bigger the human population, the hotter its getting.
@malcolm Why don't you stop talking the talk and start walking the walk. Show me your mathematics.Have you ever tried doing the calculations you see in your peer reviewed journals (which you have not referenced). I've got access to a high performance Beowulf cluster, when you're ready, bring on the Math.I want a precise mathematical statement of your hypothesis, a rigorous mathematical plausibility argument and finally, the RAW data on which you base your opinions and where you got the data from.Also, prove that oil is a "fossil fuel". I challenge you.@SGS apologies for off-topic comment.
Hahah good point Rickmed. Hell, you should be a globalist sponsored scientist with these ideas! They fit right in line with the depopulation plans :P
I'm not really trying to argue, as it seems that your convictions and beliefs will hold fast. But, ask yourselves this, having built our entire modern world on the last hours of ancient sunlight what do we do for a encore?
The super deep well drilled in Russia and the gulf as well as other mounting evidence are proving that oil is abiotic. Artificial supply shortage is a bitch - the reason I refuse to ever purchase a diamond in my life.
Personally, I don't know exactly what to believe when it comes to CO2 and climate change. There does seem to be a correlation between the two, and there's also some very good arguments on the other side as well. The sun cycles, water vapour, etc. We should be FAR more concerned with chemical pollution, GMO shit, nuclear waste, etc. And... I don't really care about whether "greenhouse" gases cause climate change or not, Abiotic oil/fossil oil...Yep, I don't and here's why; Oil will be phased out over the coming 5 -10 - 20 years and replaced with clean and dirt cheap alternatives. I'm not talkin' solar and wind and shit either. Oil and carbon-based fuels will soon be obsolete as an energy source. We'll be using carbon-based fuels to make products and then those products will be recycled at the end of their useful life and made into new products. Not everyone will agree with what I just wrote, and that's fine. I'm not here to argue what I envision. Let's watch it happen:) DDT
@ RickmedA) everybody has eaten a carrotB) everybody will dieC) according to your theory carrots cause deathThat's what is called "correlation without causation"http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=correlation+without+causation
JESUS FUCK I leave for 2 hours...how the fuck did this board get hijacked to climate change and Al Big bird Gore?
I didn't start it.I just ended it :)DS
@ DS, ROTFLOL!!!! Good one!Hey Devine, I think well all agree that the climate is changing and there is an increase in CO2, those two facts are evident. Now, as for causation, relation, correlation, cause and effect, hell the government just said that the unemployment rate went down to 8.8% I call bullshit! Anyway, I hope my miners are up tomorrow.
Al Gore? No, he's not Big Bird. He's Big Dick from Sex Street. I've heard he's had his ways with the Nookie Monster.SE
@malcolmActually, the unemployment numbers are not BS. They just didn't state WHICH unemployment numbers they were using. It's probably true on the U3 numbers, but definitely not the U6 numbers as the people fall off the unemployment checks cliff into oblivion.
They calculated the unemployment number by adjusting the birth/death ratio.
its still bs
LOL, Gore is good comic relief... Don't get me going on Bill Gates or cigar Clinton! LOL couldn't resist :-)Jeb Bush aka S waddle to the podium Harper.
Um, good vid....Am I allowed to post on-topic here?
LS650, lol no you may only state your position on Manbearpig.
@Darth SmokerI was pointing out the idiocy in Malcoms theory. Climate change because of fossil fuel use is still unknown and probably not a factor.And I guess the people who have never eaten a carrot live forever? haha
Not to belabor this subject, but it was not nor is not my theory, but of those much more informed and educated than any of the poster here concerning the subject of climate change, atmospheric conditions and anomalies.Idiocy definition1) noun =utterly senseless or foolish behavior; a stupid or foolish act, statement, etc. 2) see Rickmed comments
@Yousifhttp://www.nws.noaa.gov/oh/hrl/papers/area/sanluisb.htmhttp://search.usa.gov/search?sc=0&query=co2+levels&locale=en&m=&affiliate=nws.noaa.gov&commit=Searchhttp://www.epa.gov/climatechange/emissions/co2.htmlhttp://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2486.2001.00383.x/fullhttp://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v379/n6562/abs/379240a0.htmlhttp://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v334/n6177/abs/334055a0.htmlhttp://www.sciencemag.org/content/319/5867/1238.shortI will not even address the preposterous claim of abiotic oil.
Aren't we supposed to talk about PM here? How about the anticipation of a Blythe frog march? Global warming is B.S. As of 5:30 am Monday, silver (May contract) is up over 60 cents!! OH YEAH!!